J Dilla – Donuts (Stones Throw, 2006)

Nick: This is I expect one of those situations where the creator puts in a lot more than the casual listener can possibly take out.

I’d imagine you’d get more out of it with repeated listens, but this isn’t my scene, I wouldn’t be ready to give it the time it deserves.

there’s probably a lot of hidden meanings in it, but I’ll never find them.

I guess all I can say is that it’s cleverly put together.

this is unique to music right?

taking lots of different elements and making something new.


….yyy…..yeah, it’s not quite the same thing is it?

well maybe it is.

I’d like to try it with poetry, you might get sued pretty quickly.

it’s interesting if you think about it, language uses more of the same components than painting.

five poets still all use the same language.

whereas five painters have different brush-strokes, different…

there’s more words than colours.

I dispute that!

there has to be more colours, there is a limited number of words, colour is infinite, we’re not be able to distinguish them all but….

William Burroughs used a cut & paste technique in his writing.

did he?

so I’ve heard.

to the degree where you can notice the other bits of literature?

well I think he cut-and-pastes himself.

well that’s different then.

I have to say that large parts of this don’t work for me at all, it’s just so random.

well it sounds that way to me.

I can see the thought put into some parts.

maybe I’m just missing out.

is there…

this is a question.

is there any evidence of a person who wrote very good songs himself and then moved to sampling?

all depends what you call very good songs.


I still have this sneaky feeling that the people doing this are technically and aurally quite talented but just not very creative.

I can’t for the life of me accept the ‘famous DJs’, it’s like having a famous museum curator.

that might be a very old fashioned and heretic idea.

the first person who comes to mind, in answer to your question…


is Panda Bear.

ehh who? hahahaha!

yeah I thought of him too, I know his music so well.

well we’ve reviewed him before here.

he’s in Animal Collective, but his last solo album was sample based.

he must have just run out of steam.

{Person Pitch begins}

oh I remember this!

yes this is very good, it’s not as random as the last one.

but he uses sampling as an instrument, like using a drum machine instead of drums.

the main creation is the melody and the lyrics.

whereas Mr…


Mr Dilla, he puts together other people’s creations, he made the quilt, and in some places the quilt looks very nice.

who plays Beethoven’s 5th the best on their Gramophone? who dresses the nicest while playing it? who has the best wrist movement when putting the record on?

Some white guy in an Indie band told me to check out J Dilla.



3 responses to “J Dilla – Donuts (Stones Throw, 2006)

  1. richie hawtin went from djing to production and then on to making 60-90 minute techno “mash-ups” (for want of a better term), taking small elements from hundreds of tracks and then carefully arranging them, like a composer and conductor in one.

    also the rza was unable to play any instruments when producing the wu-tang’s seminal (and still un-equaled) 1993 masterpiece 36 Chambers, and then moved on to playing keyboards etc himself.

    i’m sure there are plenty more examples all over the shop.

  2. Dilla is God. Tell your father to let his own mind dictate the deep references and layered nuances.. i think dilla is all about soul, not insider knowledge. gotta let the heart listen.. pops don’t smoke blunts by any chance?

    anyway, Glad you dudes dig The Freaks.

    • Carl – Nick actually meant the other way round, he wanted examples of artists moving from what he terms ‘proper music’ ie: written on a guitar/piano to sample based music.

      But really, it’s all same isn’t it?

      Sawyer – Pops don’t smoke blunts I’m afraid, tho he always eats lots of cheese before going to bed 🙂
      Keep up the awesome work and thanks for dropping by!


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